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Thieving Otter Farm Thieving Otter Farm is a leader in the quail industry for education and for breeding quail with regard to conformation, health, temperament, and production.
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Founding member of the American Coturnix Breeders Association. Cohost of Two Chix Coturnix. We are a small, NPIP/AI clean certified farm north of Nashville, TN. Our name comes from the wild river otters who steal fish from our pond. We believe in providing the highest quality quail, focusing on health, temperament, conformation, color, size, and production. We want you to be just as proud of our birds as we are! Along with quail, we offer cages, feeders, watering system, enrichment toys, and more! Visit our store to see what can make your quail journey more fun, while saving you time and money! Want to learn about quail? Visit our YouTube channel and check out our podcast! Two Chix Coturnix brings you the scoop - not the p**p - on Coturnix quail!

Remember my post the other day about a switch going out on my hatcher? I had a huge hatch. They hatched a day late, but ...
10/12/2026

Remember my post the other day about a switch going out on my hatcher?

I had a huge hatch. They hatched a day late, but I had almost the same hatch rate as normal!

That’s crazy banana pants!

We just can’t catch a break! No live bird shipping this week. I will still ship eggs with cooling packs. If you prefer n...
10/12/2026

We just can’t catch a break! No live bird shipping this week. I will still ship eggs with cooling packs. If you prefer not to have your eggs shipped, feel free to reach out.

Tennessee has had SO many record-breaking weather days this year! I’m over it!

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…My day was brightened by a very nice thread in a quail group where s...
10/07/2026

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…

My day was brightened by a very nice thread in a quail group where someone asked if TOF was a good source for eggs. The comments truly made my day, and I appreciate each of you who chimed in. It’s those posts that make these other things (mostly) (kinda) bearable (maybe?).

Now for the “things” I mentioned.

The first picture is the aftermath of me pulling out an upper-level p**p tray and discovering it was p**p soup WAY too late. I hope my Airbnb guests weren’t looking, as this required a full strip down on the front porch before I broke the Guinness Book of World Records for time in the shower. Seriously. It was all down my front AND back. I was squishing when I walked.

The second picture is my hatcher after I replaced a blown switch. I don’t know how long the power had been out, but it’s hatch day, so I may have lost several hundred chicks many of those were preorders for live birds, soooooooo….. Not. Good.

Things happen. That’s farm life. If you want ordinary, consistent, and peaceful, don’t be a farmer.

P**p soup shower: zero stars. Do not recommend.

10/03/2026

What do you do for a wild snake with a spinal injury?

A couple of critters we found today. Dekays brownsnake. Super cute - this is as big as they get!Tree frog. Look at that ...
10/02/2026

A couple of critters we found today.

Dekays brownsnake. Super cute - this is as big as they get!

Tree frog. Look at that widdle guy!

MY BIRDS AREN’T LAYING!This is a common theme in the groups right now, and I’m seeing a lot of misinformation being shar...
10/01/2026

MY BIRDS AREN’T LAYING!

This is a common theme in the groups right now, and I’m seeing a lot of misinformation being shared.

🥚REASONS WHY YOUR BIRDS AREN’T LAYING EGGS
• Light - Quail need 14-16 hours of light per day to lay eggs. This is the time of year when the daylight hours are getting shorter, so your birds need supplemental light.
• Molting - Molting is when birds lose their feathers and the feathers are replaced with new ones. Because this expends a lot of energy, they don’t normally lay during this time. *Increasing protein WILL NOT make the molt go faster*.
• Age - Give them time to mature. Not all quail start laying at 6 weeks. Some take longer. Give them time.
• Stress - Stress can make quail not lay eggs. Stress can be from improper rooster-to-hen ratio, improper number of birds per square footage of cage space, being handled, being moved from one cage to another, bullies, predators, pets near the cage, etc.

🥚THINGS THAT WILL NOT MAKE YOUR BIRDS LAY EGGS
• Increasing protein - adult birds need 18-22% protein feed. Feeding more than that will put stress on the kidneys and can lead to prolapse or egg-binding. It will make their manure smell bad.
• Increasing calcium - adding more calcium will not make a bird lay eggs. A proper layer feed should have ~3% calcium.
• Feeding treats - providing meal worms, greens, and other treats are ok, but in very small quantities. They will *not* make your birds start laying. If you feed too much, they can throw off their dietary nutrients and cause issues, or make your birds fat, which can reduce egg production.
• Giving vitamins and electrolytes - This isn’t going to make them lay eggs. Prolonged use of vitamins and electrolytes can actually be harmful. Use only in times of stress and for no more than 24hrs.

Why are your quail not laying? This is the time of year when we see lots of posts asking why their quail are not laying ...
09/30/2026

Why are your quail not laying?

This is the time of year when we see lots of posts asking why their quail are not laying eggs.

Check out this episode of Two Chix Coturnix to see why!

Where are my eggs? Find out the many factors that could cause your ...

THE GREAT TEXAS A&M DEBATETexas A&M was a bloodline using English White Coturnix quail developed by Texas A&M University...
09/28/2026

THE GREAT TEXAS A&M DEBATE

Texas A&M was a bloodline using English White Coturnix quail developed by Texas A&M University. That project ended in the 70s, but the name still persists today.

People still see a picture of an English White and automatically call it a Texas A&M. But, if the line still existed today, you would not be able to tell the difference between a Texas A&M English White and any other English White just by looking at a photo. Texas A&M used English Whites for their line.

A Texas A&M was an English White, but an English White is not necessarily a Texas A&M.

This is because Texas A&M was a bloodline, not a gene. It was a specific line of English White that was bred by the university. The birds were known to be very aggressive.

A bloodline is a line of birds (or other species) that are bred by a specific breeder for specific traits. Once someone else outcrosses that bloodline or breeds it differently, it is no longer a bloodline.

For instance, let’s take Labrador Retrievers as an example.

Labrador Retriever is the breed (just as Coturnix is the “breed”).

Yellow lab is the variety (just as English White is the variety).

Let’s say a dog breeder has a line of yellow labs they’ve been line breeding for years - the Champion Von Muttsnstuff line. They don’t go to the shelter and find a yellow lab and breed it into the line. They don’t breed a chocolate lab into the line. They don’t breed a cocker spaniel into the line. They don’t let a stray mutt breed to their dogs and call it their line. The entire line is made up of the descendants of Champion Von Muttsnstuff yellow Labrador retrievers.

Breed - Labrador retriever (Coturnix)
Variety - Yellow (English White)
Line - Champion Von Muttsnstuff (Texas A&M)

Let’s say that breeder sells off his dogs. They go to all different people all over the US. 50 years go by. The original dogs are long dead. The original dogs had been bred by different people to different dogs outside of the original line. Some were bred to chocolate labs. Some were bred to black labs. Some were bred to yellow labs of various origins. Some were bred to Dalmatians. Some were bred to golden retrievers. Some were bred by stray mutts. The current descendants of the original Von Muttsnstuff line are now many, many generations removed from the original dogs.

Now, 50 years after the Champion Von Muttsnstuff line was bred by the breeder of the Von Muttsnstuff line, the yellow lab that is bought at the pet store is not a Von Muttsnstuff. The yellow lab from a backyard breeder who just found two labs and put them together to make some cash is not Champion Von Muttsnstuff. If you purchase a champion yellow lab show dog from Big Mountain Yellow Labs, that is a Big Mountain yellow lab, not a Von Muttsnstuff.

The line ended when the original breeder stopped breeding them.

Even if the original breeder sold his dogs to another person and they kept the line going without outcrossing, after multiple generations, the line would no longer be the same line. The new breeder would select differently over time. The new breeder might like a blockier head. Might select for shorter legs. Might like a different shade of yellow for the coat color. The breeder might not select at all and just put one dog with another dog on a whim.

In other words, the current generation would not resemble the original line, even if the descendants were from that line, and even if they are still yellow labs.

So no, after 50 years, the Texas A&M line no longer exists as the original bloodline. What you see out there are just English Whites. Are some of the English Whites you see out there distant relatives of Texas A&M? Maybe. But think of how many generations of Coturnix quail that have been produced since the Texas A&M line was discontinued by the breeders at the university. You can get about 4 generations a year. That’s 200 or more generations removed from the original birds. That’s 200 generations or more that may have been mixed with other lines, other varieties, and bred by other breeders. Unless one of the original people who bred the Texas A&M line is still breeding that line today, there are no longer any Texas A&M. What you see out there are just English White - the original color for the A&M line. They are other breeders’ lines now.

Rough Green SnakeThis little noodle was in my yard today. Rough green snakes are one of my all-time most favorite snakes...
09/28/2026

Rough Green Snake

This little noodle was in my yard today. Rough green snakes are one of my all-time most favorite snakes. We’re so lucky to have them wild here in TN.

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