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Little River Kiko's 100% New Zealand kiko meat goats. Interested? email me at: [email protected] (or) call: 260-760-1126

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I do not have Kiko‘s available right now, however, I do have full blood Savannas available… Two different Adult bucks.. ...
12/08/2021

I do not have Kiko‘s available right now, however, I do have full blood Savannas available… Two different Adult bucks.. 2 yr old & a 3 year old….. a few does… All registered with the American Savanna Registry (ASR)

Right now I do not have kikos for sale… I do however have full blood Savanna bucks and does available.
12/08/2021

Right now I do not have kikos for sale… I do however have full blood Savanna bucks and does available.

Right now I do not have kikos for sale… I do however have full blood Savanna bucks and does available.

I have 3 adult bucks so This big guy is up for consideration…. FULLBLOOD SAVANNAGreat bloodlines, will add meat to your ...
11/05/2021

I have 3 adult bucks so This big guy is up for consideration…. FULLBLOOD SAVANNA

Great bloodlines, will add meat to your herd!

Pm me for information

So many people of asked Me how to trim hooves… here you go!😊
07/26/2021
How to Trim Goat Hooves

So many people of asked Me how to trim hooves… here you go!😊

This is an educational presentation that shows producers how to trim a goat hoof. Dr. Gene Parker shows the tools needed and the process used to trim goat ho...

I NEVER EVER EVER give milk replacer to bottle babies.... it gives them scours.
04/03/2021

I NEVER EVER EVER give milk replacer to bottle babies.... it gives them scours.

I NEVER EVER EVER give milk replacer to bottle babies.... it gives them scours.

NEVER EVER USE MILK REPLACER FOR ORPHANED KIDS👎😳Cause scours. I posted a picture of the recipe which is basically just w...
01/03/2021

NEVER EVER USE MILK REPLACER FOR ORPHANED KIDS👎😳

Cause scours. I posted a picture of the recipe which is basically just whole milk and buttermilk to use for offering goats. They will not get diarrhea on this. 4 ounces 3 to 4 times a day for the first week… I never get up at night to feed.
second week to 5 ounces three - 4 times a day .......
By the third week I’m down to three times a day

NEVER EVER USE MILK REPLACER FOR ORPHANED KIDS👎😳

Cause scours. I posted a picture of the recipe which is basically just whole milk and buttermilk to use for offering goats. They will not get diarrhea on this. 4 ounces 3 to 4 times a day for the first week… I never get up at night to feed.
second week to 5 ounces three - 4 times a day .......
By the third week I’m down to three times a day

Life happens..., And due to this…, I will be dispersing all  50/50 percentage Kiko/Savanna Bucklings earlier then I wo...
06/11/2020

Life happens..., And due to this…, I will be dispersing all 50/50 percentage Kiko/Savanna Bucklings earlier then I would in normal year. (Normally… buckling’s are not available until they are 10 to 11 months old) Weight gain records available.

I WILL NOT BE DISPERSING ANY % DOLINGS THIS YEAR

With that said… The first picture is a picture of their sire. He is the large one in the back of the picture ....RiptTide from BHF, Presently owned by Greg Brooks of Brookssideacres.com (NOT AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE!)

If you look through my previous posts, you will see pictures of these kids 100% New Zealand mamas. There’s actually a couple pictured here as well.

These mamas have proved themselves over and over again for me… I wormed two of them in five years. Every one of them had at least twins… several had Triplets and then I had a set of quadruplets and also a set of quintuplets. They are an older herd but they have several years of production left. I will be dispersing the remaining adult does the end of July. All of them are registered 100% New Zealand kiko...

PM me or call & leave message For information

Something to think about
04/05/2020

Something to think about

We are super lucky to have the fabulous Steve Gabriel from Wellspring Forest Farm & School and the Cornell Small Farms Program with us tomorrow to talk trees and livestock! Register for our free webinar at http://www.anymeeting.com/PIID=EE51D88785493C

Photos from Little River Kiko's post
04/04/2020

Photos from Little River Kiko's post

03/18/2020
 After a four year Absence of “ most things goat,” i’m back… And I’m excited! My first Kiko/ American Savanna cross ...
03/14/2020

 After a four year Absence of “ most things goat,” i’m back… And I’m excited! My first Kiko/ American Savanna cross kids are due the beginning of April!🙌🙌🙌

My 100 % New Zealand girls are extremely parasite resistant....I have not had to worm or trim feet for five years! The sire to these kids are RipTide (American Savanna)Owned by Greg Brooks. 

The girls are looking really good but I cannot for the life of me see them going for another four weeks before they start to kid😳🤣. My girls Always produce at least twins… I have three that never fail to give me triplets one gives me quads.

A rancher/shepherdess of goats for over 30 years...., I’ve never been one to feed grain, except for the last few weeks before the mama’s kid. I’m doing things a little bit different this year. I will give the mamas and the babies just a little bit of grain. 

Thank you Greg Brooks, and Chris Luton, For your encouragement, for your willingness to share your knowledge/Experiences, and for your never ceasing efforts to better the meat Goat, community😊
(That mama to be pictured top left is almost 9 years old… Looking mighty fine❤️)

One of the potential hazards of using Pesticides and herbicides
02/02/2020
Berry Grower To Pay Penalties For Workers' Exposure To Pesticides

One of the potential hazards of using Pesticides and herbicides

MONTEREY (BCN) A berry growing company will pay almost $200,000 in penalties and costs after 27 harvesting workers were sickened by pesticides and chemicals in a 2017 incident, the Monterey County District Attorney's Office announced Friday. Reiter Berry Farms Inc., which markets its berries under t...

01/17/2020

A great read for all #justafarmkids out there. #farmkids #farming #livestock

12/23/2019
11/30/2019

Welcome! Make sure you keep up to date on all that's going on at www.usamgc.com We are very happy to finally to announce The American Meat Goat Classic!

Photos from Luton Meat Goat Co's post
11/18/2019

Photos from Luton Meat Goat Co's post

SOOO EXCITED🙌🙌🙌🙌!!!
11/18/2019

SOOO EXCITED🙌🙌🙌🙌!!!

Hello and Welcome! The American Meat Goat Classic July 16th thru 18th. Has been a long time coming. This unique event is to Empower Breeder Excellence!

In this inaugural event, we will have Spanish, Kiko, Boer and Savanna breeds all under one roof from a group of breeders that have the same vision of empowering meat goat breeders.

There will be many seminars conducted focused on education about the meat goat industry its history and topics to aid breeders. The seminars will be followed by a sale of 120 lots of outstanding goats from these four breeds.

Our focus is on the goats and supplying tools to the breeders of these meat breeds.

It has been exciting to see folks who have a passion of different breeds come together with the vision of empowerment regardless of their chosen breed!

11/14/2019

I Stole this from Chris Luton post on the American Savanna Page (sorry Chris, I couldn’t resist🤣)

I Stole this from  Chris Luton post on the American Savanna Page (sorry Chris, I couldn’t resist🤣)
11/14/2019

I Stole this from Chris Luton post on the American Savanna Page (sorry Chris, I couldn’t resist🤣)

I Stole this from Chris Luton post on the American Savanna Page (sorry Chris, I couldn’t resist🤣)

I encourage anyone that is interested in raising goats to invest in a subscription to Goat Rancher magazine..., here ...
11/04/2019

I encourage anyone that is interested in raising goats to invest in a subscription to Goat Rancher magazine..., here is another Great article from Greg Brooks.

Soooo, my 100%  NZ Kiko does have a “visitor” for the next several weeks! This is “RipTide,” all harnessed up ready to d...
11/03/2019

Soooo, my 100% NZ Kiko does have a “visitor” for the next several weeks! This is “RipTide,” all harnessed up ready to do his job… a 100% Savanna Buck, owned by Greg Brooks of www.brookssideacres.com.

It is my opinion, that “goat people,” are among the people in the world.

Thank you Greg Brooks for “reaching out, ” and helping me “start over”

Once again, looking forward into future of my herd😊

Yep
09/20/2019

Yep

Truth!

I look forward to the Goat Rancher Magazine every month. ( I always think it’s neat that I’ve met so many of the people ...
09/02/2019
www.brookssideacres.com

I look forward to the Goat Rancher Magazine every month. ( I always think it’s neat that I’ve met so many of the people that write the articles😊)

Greg Brooks article on performance data Has a lot of wisdom in it. It talks about the importance of performance data. He gives examples of some of “HIS” methods of collecting it. Something of equal value… The article stresses how we each have our own methods… That being said… because one does things one way and others may collect/record data a different way doesn’t make the quality of his/her goats better than anyone else’s. Truth & wisdom.... I like that.

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08/11/2019

These are what savanna goats look like❤️

Consider BHF Savanna’s
08/10/2019

Consider BHF Savanna’s

Photos from BF Farm's post
08/07/2019

Photos from BF Farm's post

08/07/2019
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So, you ask…, If my page is “ Little River Kikos” Why do I talk about Savanna Goats? Through the years I have learned many pros and cons of raising Goats. I have had a couple Dairy goat herds, boer and now I have 100% New Zealand kiko meat goats. I’ve had Kiko meet Goats for approximately 12 years, and I’ve been very satisfied with them.
As life would have it, I was introduced to the Savanna breed of meat goats about 3 and a half years ago. It just so happens the man that owns the largest herd of Kiko Goats also started developing American savanna Meat goat in the U.S. ( aka Chris Luton ). Even more amazing, my kiko herd originated from Chris Luton’s original genetics… Small world right? Anyways, Greg Brooks and Chris are working diligently to perfect the savanna meet Goat Breed. Right now I still have Kikos, I may always have a few, but I am highly interested in the Savanna. Time will tell, meanwhile, you’ll probably be hearing a lot about them on this page.

That being said, I have another article that Greg Brooks wrote for the Goat Rancher Magazine...., you might find it interesting.... ENJOY

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Today's Savanna Goat ln America Greg Brooks
To talk about the Savanna today in America we need to understand its history. The thing that drew me to the Savanna breed was the hardiness and low maintenance and muscle definition attributed to the breed developed and explained on the YouTube video of Lubbe Cilliers recorded by Brian Payne in 1999. When I decided to raise Savannas (how we spell it here in America - without an "h" on the end), I searched for Savannas like the ones in the video. I struggled to find ones that looked like the ones in Mr. Cilliers'video. I made purchases as close to those in the video as I could without sacrificing the conformation that a good meat goat should have.
The story I kept getting was Savannas were white and the other stuff wasn't that critical. Once my breeding program began, I found myself being conflicted over having these great performing goats that traced back toJurgen Schulz but didn't comply with "all" the breed standards from South Africa.
When I looked back at what made me want to raise Savanna seedstock, it wasn't the color of the goat, it was the fact that they were made to perform (survive) and thrive by Lubbe in South Africa or they became food for the predators and scavengers. Only the strongest and hardiest survived, with no intervention from man for large periods of time. This is the kind of seedstock
I wanted to raise on my farm.
I decided to continue looking for that perfect Savanna to add to my herd as it was growing. I visited many Savanna breeders'websites and, to my surprise, there were pictures of goats that Iooked like mine - whether in regard to pigment, head shape or teat structure.
The animals I saw weren't "perfecf'according to the breed standard. I did see a few breeders that were close, but very few animals met all the standards, so I decided that instead of listening everyone's varied opinions or beliefs, I would try to get my answers from as close to the horse's mouth as possible.
I started communicatingwith a Savanna breeder, Mr. Koenie Kotze from South Africa, many months ago via Facebook. I discovered Koenie actually worked for the Cilliers family during the development and continued improvement of the Savanna goat. I have been talking to Koenie for more than a year now and hope to make a visit to see him in the near future.
I asked so many questions of Koenie. He was very kind and gracious to share his knowledge and experience of the Savanna goat. I was able to ask him questions about their Savanna
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goats as they were developed in South Africa. He currently raises Savannahs, Kalahari Reds and Boer goats and judges goats and sheep as well.
I decided the information he shared with me was helpfulto me - and it may prove helpful to others. I asked Koenie if he would share his experience on the.Savanna goat with folks that read the Goat Rancher magazine. I thought it would be nice to know where they started, where he felt the breed needed improvement in the early 1990s in South Africa, what challenges they faced and what areas he felt they improved on during his time with the Cilliers family.
Koenie agreed to help me write this article. Thank you very much, Koenie, for your wisdom and sharing your experience. I will italicize Koenie's writing in this article. I asked Koenie if he would share his personal knowledge of the history of the Savannah goat and his relationship with the Cilliers family as well as any early challenges they worked to address with the Savanna breed.
History of Savanna goats
The Savanna goat was developed by the Cilliers family of Douglas, an agricultural and stock farming community in the Northern Cape. ln 1957, Mrs. Cilliers'"Griqua" servants presented her with the gift of a white buck goat. She purchased five indigenous does with white in their colour pattern to breed to him and then selected for white colour, heat and parasite resistance, and meat production.
Savanna goats were exported in the early 1 990s to Canada , Brazil and to Australia. Dr. Quinton Campbell was helping the Cilliers a lot with the breeding of the Savanna. In the beginning of 1990 I was starting with the Cilliers as studmaster and with the help of Dr. Quinton Campbell, we took the Savanna a few steps forward. The Savanna goat is a meat goat. They produce delicious, mild-tasting and very healthy meat. Goat meat is tested and is the healthiest meat in the world. Even more healthy than ostrich, which was the No. 1.
Use of Savanna goats
I farm with the Boer goats, Kalahari Reds (ljust sold the stud) and the Savanna. Savannas are hardier, look better after the kids, are more aggressive against dogs and predators and they are a low-maintenance goat. They are very good for crossing with Boer goats, Kalahari Reds, indigenous goats and dairy goats. More than 9070 of the offspring are already pure white. They also increase the meat in the lndigenous goats and the dairy goats.
Working for the Cilliers brothers
When I started working there, the Savanna was good. The conformation was good but there was a lack of meat. Everything was just average. The horns were not ennobled enough for me. Most of the horns were wild and flat. They had short bodies, short center piece and a short rump. The meat was up high, with very small hindquarters. There was nothing in the inner thighs and less meat in the outer thighs.
We started using bucks with more meat and a little bit longer in the body. We made the length
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feminine. We usde the bucks with the more sire (masculinity) in the head (Roman nose and strong, wide, protected eyebrows). The bucks must be more heavy in the front and not as healy in the back (muscular). The does must be wide and deep in the hindquarters and much more slender towards the front (femininity).
What did we need better at that stage? . Longer bodies.
. Longer centre piece.
. Longer rump.
. More width in the barrel - they have to breathe properly.
. More spring of rib to make spa€e for the lungs,
. More width on the withers, we did not want sharp shoulder blades.
. We want more meat in the hindquarters. The meat must come down and more meat on the inner and outer thighs.
. The stitch must come down more.
. As soon as the meat came down more, the shank become shorter. . The heads must have more of a Roman rose.
. We want a more ennobled head shape.
. lt must form a half moon from the nose to the point of the horns. . We did not want a hollow or plain forehead.
. We want a wide nose full of pleats and skinfolds on the neck and front quarter of the buck (we want sire in the bucks). These masiuline bucks produce masculine male kids and feminine female kids.
. At that stage there were not many of the goats with beautiful balance or symmetry - the beauty resulting from the right proportions of all the parts of the body.
. We want round or oval horns that are slightly backwards, not curling outwards.
. We did not want wild, flat, sharp (on the inside) horns or horns that stand upright.
. The horns that are curled slightly backwards and round or oval are the ennobled horns. This type of horn will breed you a quatity buck and doe who carries much more meat than the flat, sharp horns.
. The hocks were also something that we had to work very hard on. There were a lot of Savannas that had very bad cow hocks.
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. They were very slabsided in the beginning. Today they have width from front to hindside.
. Our aim was to make allthis better.
. After all these years we succeeded in our goals.
Now it is not only a hardy goat, but today it is also a beautiful functional goat, and a goat that you can look at. When you look at the Savanna today it is attractive.
We worked all these years on the right teats on the Savanna. Today we can proudly say that the Savanna has the best teats (in bucks and does) of all the meat goats in South Africa.lt was in the agenda of the October Annual Boer goat meeting that they wanted to softened the teat standards, because they know how many problems they have with the teats.
I fought for nearly 40 years that we also have to look at the teats of the bucks. Now for a few years we have looked at the teats of the bucks at shows and sale, but they still want to throw everything overboard. They have said that as long as a 1-day-old kid can survive on any teats, that doe is OK and functional.
We tried to get away from the wrong teats for 50-60 years and now we want to throw everything overboard. I cannot understand it all. We can proudly say that the Savanna goat today hase the best teats in South Africa.
All the above points that I mentioned, we can proudly announced that we succeed in our goal. We made everything that we wanted better, we made it better and beautiful.
Regards KOENIE KATZE
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Koenie also provided the below:
Characteristic breed traits
Lively appearance.
Symmetrical conformation, with legs and body not too long or too short.
Short kemp white hair. During the winter months the goat develops extra fluffy cashmere hair for protection against the severe cold.
The Savanna has strong jaws and strong, Iong-lasting, welldeveloped teeth. Long productive Iife.
The head
The Savanna has a f airly long, slightly curved head and the head has the shape of that of a big- mouth yellow-fish. The head and nose must be fairly broad and not sharp. lf you catch the
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Savanna, the horns must not be sharp on the inside and make your hands sore. That is why we want it more oval.
The mouth must be reasonably wide with well-muscled jaws. The upper and lower lips must be well muscled and mobile like that of a kudu to pick out the leaves between thorns of the thorn bushes.
The teeth of young and mature goats in bucks as well as does must bite solidly and correctly on the gums of the upper jaws. No jaw or mouth faults will be allowed except eight-tooth-olds may show 6mm (.24 inch) protrusion.
The eyes must be lively and surrounded by black-pigmented eyelids, and must be protected by well-developed eyebrows.
The ears must be fairly big, of oval shape and hang down next to the head. Not too short or stiff. The ears must be well-pigmented and mobile in order to protect the goat against midges, ticks, gadflies and other insect pests.
The horns are dark black and grow backwards from the crown of the head. The horns must be strong and oval shaped and must not press against the neck. The horns should not grow wild or be too long. Bucks have slightly stronger and heavier horns than does. At the base there should be a reasonable width between the horns Does as well as bucks must be able to use their horns to protect themselves as well as their kids.
Neck, forequarters, legs and hooves
The neck is well muscled and reasonably long so that the goat can easily reach as high as possible to browse on branches of various types of the thorn trees.
The forequarter is well muscled and of medium width; there will be strongly discriminated against narrow or a very wide forequarter.
The front legs are well placed and straight. The cannon bone of both the front and hind legs should be short and strong. The pasterns of the front and hinds legs must be strong and springy and must be slightly sloping. Straight or weak pasterns will be strongly discriminated.
The hooves of both front and hind legs must be strong, hard, black and reasonably big. The two sections of each hoof must be close to each other. The hooves should not be overgrown and the hooves of Savannas must not easily become sore and develop foot rot.
The shoulder blades must be strongly attached to the forequarter and withers.
The withers should be somewhat higher than the back and rump. In the case of older rams, medium sized skinfolds are found on the forequarter.
Back and centerpiece
The centre piece should be reasonably long and deep on the goat and must possess enough capacity to hold sufficient roughage and to convert it into meat and energy.
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The back and eye muscle (musculus longisimus dorsi) must be very strong and wide and not be straight, but should not be weak.
The center piece of older animals must not be cylindrical or lack depth.
The Savanna goat has well sprung ribs and an oval respiratory center piece. Hindquarters and hind legs
The hindquarters should be wide and the hind legs must be well apart and straight. The rump must show a reasonable slope just like that of the gemsbok (oryx gazelle). The hindquarters must be well-muscled and carry a lot of meat.
The hocks must be strong and muscular and the tendons of the hocks must be prominent and easily seen. The hocks should not turn in (cowhocked) or out (bandy legs). lt must not be sickle-hocked or post-legged hocks. The goat must be able to stand easily on its hind legs.
The tail of the Savanna must be straight up and be well covered with hair and should be very mobile. The bare skin of the tail should also have btack pigmentation.
Color, pigmentation and hair
The Savanna goat is totally white. A limited number of red and black hair on a 2-tooth is permissible. Red and black spots on the ears are allowed when the Savanna are a bit older. Most of the time they are born with white ears and after a few weeks the spots become visible. Ewes older than 2-tooth that become too red or black become herd goats.
When an impression of a general red or black color and not white is created, and when clear red or black patches are visible, the goat is culled.
Pigmentation must be dark grey to black. Light spots may not appear on elite bucks and does. Any shade of pink is a cull defect.
Sexual organs
DOES: Well-formed udder firmly attached with teats described under "Teats".
BUCKS: Two reasonably large, well-formed, healthy and equalsized te**es in one sc***um. A sc***um with a split no longer than 2cm (3/4 inch) is permissible. The sc***um must be at least 26cm (10.25 ins.) ln circumference. A twisted sc***um, or a sc***um of which the point are twisted, is a cull defect.
TEATS: Two functional teats are ideal. Double teats are not acceptable but one teat with two holes are acceptable, but must be eliminated. The maximum teats on a side are 3: 2 functional and 1 small and blind, OR 1 functional and 2 small and blind. Functional teats with a small blind teat are acceptable. ALL TEATS MUST BE SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER.
Cull defects
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Knock knees, bandy legs, cow hocked or post legged or sickle hocked. Legs too thin or too flushy. Weak pasterns and hoofs pointing outwards or inwards.
Any deviation from the normal body structure that will harm the functional effectiveness of the Savanna.
Incomplete or too light skin pigmentation. Special considerations
Savanna bucks are aggressive breeders and does, peerless mothers; Savanna does are protective, fertile, they kid with ease, and two to four kids are the norm per litter (the Cilliers' herd was untended for one month prior to kidding and two months after; survival of the fittest weeded out poor does early on). Savanna goats breed year round. They were selected for strong jaws, long lasting teeth and sound legs so they could stand on their hind legs to efficiently browse bush, leaves and any other green thing in their harsh environment. They easily endure heat, intense sunshine, cold and rain. Savanna's are tough as a goat can get. lf you are looking for a productive meat breed that doesn't require codling, seek no further, this is your goat.
lVe seen very few Savannas that meet all the criteria in the South African breed standard and what Koenie describes above. ln my discussions with Koenie he relayed to me that the function of the goat comes before the finer points. In Africa they do not cull an animal with hair color other that white if its conformation is good. They know the white hair is such a dominant trait that 90%o of the offspring produced will be white.
They cull for weak conformation of function instead. Based on such a small number of Savanna genetics to work with, there is only one direction for us to go here in America. We take the genetics we were given and, just as they've done in Africa, continue to improve it. We need to move this breed forward without sacrificing its hardiness and function for the fancy points. Yes, we will continue to work toward producing a Savanna goat that meets the South African breed standard but we should never be willing to sacrifice performance.
ln the next part we will discuss more history of the Savanna goat in America and its continued development.
(Greg Brooks raises meat goat at Brookside Acres in Greenfield, lnd. He can be contacted at greg. [email protected] h oo.com.)
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