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Under the Cloud Homestead We are Nick and Victoria Lanter! Welcome to our homestead in central Kentucky!

Specializing in nationally competitive Silver Fox Rabbits for meat/fur/show as well as dual purpose Dexter Cattle.
~Numbers 9:15-18~

The other day I posted about test breeding for self chin and not sending anything out of my barn that I wasn't reasonabl...
09/28/2026

The other day I posted about test breeding for self chin and not sending anything out of my barn that I wasn't reasonably certain was clear of self chin.
I want to clarify that this is a personal decision for my Rabbitry and there are different philosophies for breeding and culling programs.

Some just breed the best forward and cull any that have DQs or any number of other traits that the breeder deems cull worthy. They don't bother with test breeding and just keep individuals who meet the SOP or their Rabbitry goals. They might use a sibling or parent of a rabbit who had a DQ.

Breeders allowing things to breed forward does make it harder on future breeders(and themselves) but the truth is that breeders cannot breed out everything. There are no perfect rabbits.

People get very up in arms about a gene like chinchilla not being bred out because it's a simple recessive. But there are a lot of traits that are controlled by multiple genes that we as breeders don't cull a whole line for because it's just too hard to nail down. White nails, random white spotting genes, split p***s, deviated spine, uneven silvering, malocclusion, weak ear base, etc. I don't know of breeders purposefully replicating these traits. But I know of many breeders and myself who will use a sibling or parent of a rabbit with some of the above traits.

There are some breeders who pick one of the above things and cull relentlessly any line that produces it, and that is perfectly fine. It's the thing they are picky about. But not every breeder holds the same things to that degree of nitpicking. Each breeder has their own things they cull relentlessly for and often that "thing" evolves over time.

All that is okay. We can't expect every breeder to share our specific nitpicks, especially when it isn't against the standard. A rabbit who has normal eye color, even if they have recessive cchd, isn't against the standard. Just like a rabbit who had a sibling with a white nail isn't themselves against the standard even though they could have the genes that lead to more white nails later.

Also, self chin is difficult to find sometimes. I found it in lines that I had used for years and had no idea. Years of offspring that didn't show any DQ because of it. It's annoying for sure but it's not something that will destroy a line. A lot of showable offspring can be produced even when breeding two C/cchd animals together. A breeder could have self chin in their line for years and years and have no idea.

It's not reasonable to expect everyone to cull the same as you. If a Rabbitry is very concerned about a specific trait, they should ask extensive questions about background and culls that have been produced in the line and test breedings that have occurred. If a breeder can't answer these questions for them then they should probably pass. They should also conduct their own test breedings before incorporating a new line.

Responsibility ultimately falls on us to manage our own nitpicks. Self chin is one of mine.

Just some fun life things ๐Ÿฉถ
09/28/2026

Just some fun life things ๐Ÿฉถ

09/21/2026

Ultimate homestead "whodunit" mystery ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

Whoop whoop! My new favorite up and coming chocolate buck just tested negative for self chin! Some of you may have notic...
09/19/2026

Whoop whoop! My new favorite up and coming chocolate buck just tested negative for self chin!

Some of you may have noticed I haven't had much I've been willing to pass on to other breeders lately. This is because over a year ago I used an outside buck for a while and then discovered self chinchilla in some of my chocolate lines. Through that discovery, I realized that self chin is harder to detect in chocolates than it is in blacks. I had several chocolate self chins who also carried REW (cchd/c) and also had passable eye color for showing. This discovery led me to lock down any lines I wasn't sure were free of self chin.

We have been using a Himi (ch_) Cal/NZ doe who is also A_ to test breed. Using an agouti (A_) or tan (At_) based white makes test breeding for chinchilla dark (cchd) much easier to identify without a doubt as eye color can be unreliable. This young buck bred to the himi doe produced whites AND gold tipped steels. This proves that he is genetically Cc!

We have also acquired some Himi Silver Marten cropouts to use for test breeding the rest of the herd. Thank you for your help with test breeding animals My Father's Refuge Farm and Hoot'n Holler Rabbitry

Did you know it's the 239th birthday of the U.S. Constitution? Signed in Philadelphia on September 17, 1787 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธNeither di...
09/17/2026

Did you know it's the 239th birthday of the U.S. Constitution? Signed in Philadelphia on September 17, 1787 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
Neither did I until last year. I picked up that tidbit from my morning news email read.

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I'm certainly behind the times but did you all see the GIANT article on Silver Fox in the May/June 2026 Domestic Rabbit ...
09/17/2026

I'm certainly behind the times but did you all see the GIANT article on Silver Fox in the May/June 2026 Domestic Rabbit edition!? I did not. Did not hear about it at all. Great read and a testament to how our breed is growing and gaining recognition for quality and utility ๐ŸคŽ๐Ÿ–ค

If you didn't know, one of the benefits to joining ARBA is access to the digital magazine "Domestic Rabbit" or DR. Join online, pay your dues, download the ARBA app, get signed in, go to ARBA media! All the previous digital magazines can be at your finger tips! While you are at it Silver Fox Enthusiasts, check the May/June 2025 DR edition for a great letter from our very own Standards Committee chair on Bittersweet chocolate Silver Fox ๐ŸคŽ

All is calm in the cow field. Hopefully that means we will not be fighting AI anymore this year. I'm rapidly seeing the ...
09/13/2026

All is calm in the cow field. Hopefully that means we will not be fighting AI anymore this year. I'm rapidly seeing the appeal of keeping a bull. Especially since we are looking at AI'ing three next year ๐Ÿ™ƒ

2022 I said goodbye to my heart dog. Here is the tribute I made to him then ๐ŸคŽHappy 11th Birthday to my angel dog.Exactly...
09/11/2026

2022 I said goodbye to my heart dog. Here is the tribute I made to him then ๐ŸคŽ

Happy 11th Birthday to my angel dog.
Exactly one month ago I made the hardest decision I've ever made. Brody was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in June. A very aggressive and fast growing bone tumor that took over his shoulder on his front left leg. Spreading to his lungs in the end I believe. He had a limp that had gotten worse that month, though I believe he had been experiencing symptoms from it for a year, or even two, appearing as arthritis off and on.

Brody was more than a dog and more than family. He was my heart dog, a part of me that will always be there. He has been everywhere and through everything with me. I know without a doubt that he was sent from God.

The Bible is not clear what happens to animals after they die. It is clear that the only way for man to get to heaven is by faith in Christ's sacrifice for their sins.

Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

I will say that Brody never experienced sin though. He could not choose to separate himself from God. Sin is simply unrighteousness that necessitates a separation from the fully righteous God. Animals have no concept of this.

However, since the Bible is not clear on an animal's life after death, I feel convicted that it is something I am not meant to dwell on. God cares for my every need. He is my salvation, my caretaker and my comforter. His will and His path for me are the places that I will have the greatest joy. His will is always for my good.

So, I don't know what state Brody currently occupies, but I do know Brody was a gift to me from God.
I have been calling him my angel dog for years. Mostly referring to the stereotype for his good behavior. But biblically, angels are messengers from God. Brody was countless messages, lessons and comforts from God.

For those facing putting a loved pet to sleep, it's a difficult but kind decision. I've seen this quoted before and it was a comfort to me, "Better a day early than an hour too late".

I struggled with the decision for a few days. I debated. But he could still stand and drink, but he was still eating, but he could make it outside to relieve himself, but he still recognized me. I knew the moment he was not the same. I knew that Monday morning as soon as it shifted. He was different. He still insisted on getting up from his comfortable bed to come sleep in our bedroom, even until the last Wednesday night when I heard him whine and I came to help him make it to the bedroom. He was the most loyal creature I've ever encountered and he would expend every bit of energy he had to be with me.

I came to realize that I was hoping for another good day for Brody. God gave me peace to know that there would be no more "good" days. Only tolerable or traumatic ones. I would never want to wait for a traumatic day.

So I called a vet service who comes to your home and specializes in this. It was important to me for them to have that experience and professionalism. I took off work. I fed him his favorite things. I kept him on so much pain medication that he mostly slept. I invited others who loved him to say good bye. Then I told him goodbye, just the two of us. Forever faithful and forgiving.

Brody was part of my life before I ever accepted Christ. And oh, how they both forgave me, completely, for a multitude of flaws. It was through my journey with Brody that I came to more fully understand true agape love and true forgiveness. A lesson catered to me from God. If we could all love Christ the way that Brody loved me. Christ is waiting to love us like that as soon as we turn to Him.

Wow what a memory. 9 years ago I was saying goodbye to my husband of two weeks. For a deployment to the Middle East. A s...
09/10/2026

Wow what a memory.
9 years ago I was saying goodbye to my husband of two weeks. For a deployment to the Middle East. A sudden one.
At one point people asked me when we were rescheduling the wedding for because his leave for the wedding had been denied. But God ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿป.
A week or so before the wedding his predeployment leave was released and our wedding day was included.

It was a beautiful, blessed day and a sweet time together until he left. Then I was not only a brand new wife, but a military spouse saying goodbye to him for an unknown amount of time. Signing papers, following protocols, learning what was allowed to be shared and what wasn't. Fear was real, but God is bigger than my fear.

Thank you to those who serve. It is a sacrifice many people do not understand. Service extends beyond their time in the military. Praying for our service members, current, former and future ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

I absolutely love that we were gone on vacation for a week, no milking, and I can pick milking right back up when we get...
09/01/2026

I absolutely love that we were gone on vacation for a week, no milking, and I can pick milking right back up when we get home ๐Ÿ‚ ๐Ÿฅ›

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